"The Tribe13 Experiment"

A true story about a different kind of youth group
by Neil MacQueen
(This is a near-final draft of this article. Your feedback is appreciated. neil@sundaysoftware.com)
 

Introduction

This is the story about my efforts to create a different kind of "youth group" at my church. The names of the church, kids and leaders have been changed.

The Tribe13 Experiment grew out of my 25+ years experience and insights in youth ministry and family ministry. The "Experiment" sought to overcome many of the chronic problems and unmet goals of traditional children and youth ministry. And it sought to re-invent our Confirmation experience in the process.

Tribe13 in a sentence:

We took 2 grades of kids and formed them into a group when they were in the first and second grade, and we kept them together with the same leaders to be a family-oriented fellowship that grew up together.
More about that in this article!

To the Tribe13 kids, leaders, and parents, the group was a great success. Many goals were met, we became close, the parents were very appreciative, attendance stayed strong, and we had an amazing Confirmation experience.

I was a Presbyterian minister serving as a volunteer in the congregation and my youngest daughter was part of this group. (My 'full-time' ministry being what you see before you at sundaysoftware.com.)

Change is not easy. Not every member or staff person at my church understood what we were trying to do. Some didn't understand what we were trying to achieve, and a few didn't appreciate how our approach "critiqued" traditional approaches (which some of them had worked in over the years), and critiqued the existing youth group. Some probably felt threatened by ideas and our success, and the things we were able to do. Some just gave mixed messages and qualified support.  Our Tribe13 "experiment" ended in 2007 after a very successful seven year run. The church was struggling with some dysfunctional behavior and leadership, -and it came to a head in 2007, --sending my family and several other families towards the exit doors. Indeed, two staff people eventually left. That's part of the story here too: that innovative ministry is challenging enough without the church's "other" issues making it harder!

About the "Hill" Church

Doing something "different" in the church is challenging these days, especially in a small church. The "Hill" Church was a small 225 member mainline Protestant congregation in a middle class suburb of Columbus Ohio. Over the years, its membership had shrunk significantly, --even while the town around it had grown by leaps and bound... a fact they didn't want to examine and did little to address beyond allowing some of us to do some inventive children's ministry. Like many churches, for a variety of reasons the church did a lousy job of attracting more members than it was losing.  And eventually, my family became one of those who left the Hill Church. Leaving was one of my great regrets. But losing faith in a church's leadership and direction is not only demoralizing, it is spiritually unhealthy. The one enduring bright spot during our nine years there was Tribe13.

When I got there as a volunteer in 1998, the Wednesday Night fellowship program was almost non-existent. Two years later, several leaders and I had grown attendance from 8 to 30 kids, grades 1st through 12th.  --A mighty feat for a 225 member church!  That success bred some permission, and that's when Tribe13 got started.

The Tribe13 story begins... 

12 of the 30 kids coming to that re-energized Wednesday Night program were coming from just two grades. And one of those 12 was my youngest daughter.

Our traditional fellowship night had a dinner, games and lesson time. For lesson time, we split into age appropriate groups, and I was in charge of the 12-or so kids who happened to come from two grades, and who would eventually become Tribe13. Working with 2 other volunteers, I began re-envisioning with them a different kind of group for those kids -based on my 25 years of children & youth ministry experience, successes and failures.

I was also looking down the road. My two older daughters had gone through the pastor's "Confirmation" experience, and it was barely acceptable. Indeed, I was upset that my kids had such a poor experience, and I resolved that it wouldn't happen to my third daughter. So we got permission to form those two grades into their own fellowship group with a unique long-range plan (described in this article) to not only help those kids and their families grow in faith, but arrive at Confirmation and their youth group years "New and Improved". We still met most Wednesdays, and occasionally ate dinner with the other groups, but we started to make changes in what we did, and who we did it with. And we began doing things beyond Wednesday night. And we named the group "Tribe13."  (Why "Tribe13"?  Read on!)

The "Tribe13 Experiment" in a nutshell: 

In 2001 at the Hill Church in suburban Columbus Ohio, we took two grades of kids from within our big group fellowship and formed them into their own fellowship group, --with the intent of keeping them together through Grade School, Middle School, Confirmation, and High School -with the same leaders.

Tribe13 was a family, and you don't split up families every couple of years just because the schools do.
That's Tribe Concept #1: stick together throughout the years

Conventional wisdom tears apart natural fellowship groupings of kids every few years depending on what grade they are in and what school they are going to. Example: Every year you  "send up" a grade" to the Jr. High Group, regardless of who your kids are, and regardless of the nature of the group they are leaving, or the group they are going up to. This rips kids from their friends precisely when they need consistency the most. It breaks relationships rather than builds them.

As a former youth pastor, I saw how this "school division" approach to reconfiguring fellowship groups negatively affected the Middle School and Senior High groups. Every year we had to assimilate young kids into a group which we had just spent the last year building trust and closeness with. This was not only a challenge to the group and to the leaders, but to the young new members themselves. Is it any coincidence that groups tend to lose kids at these transition points? 

The Tribe13 Experiment brought an end to this wrong-headed thinking for these two grades. We had worked hard to build relationships between the 12 kids starting when they were in early elementary grades, and weren't about to let half of them leave at the Middle School transition boundary. In our town, this ripping-apart was made worse because the school system operated several separate "6th grade schools," -in addition to several 7th & 8th grade Middle Schools. We wanted to BUILD on the deepening friendships we were working to create, but the school system approach to grouping kids was going to send us back to  square one every two or three years, and precisely at an age where kids tend to start dropping out of the church. But more importantly, we were experiencing spiritual and programmatic dividends from the deepening relationships we had been nurturing, and we wanted to take it further.

Tribe13 was a "family" approach to grouping kids, rather than the school system's "move them up and out" approach. And the Tribe's "family" approach would soon extend beyond just keeping the two grades of kids together. We were going to bring the kids' families into the program more often as the kids got older, -at the time when many youth groups are aggressively cutting parents/families OUT of the program.

Tribe13 was also a long-term attempt to change the future Confirmation experience of these kids. We imagined a Confirmation that celebrated what the kids already knew and believe, rather than a crash course on Christianity to please the parents of kids who hadn't come much and probably weren't going to come back much.

From the outside, Tribe13 could appear, at times, like any other youth group. But from the inside, from the perspective of the kids, the leaders and the parents, the development of long-term relationships changed how we related to each other. These relationships and attitudes, forged when the kids were young, allowed us to infuse and continue a healthy dose of parent participation and family ministry. For example, we often met in group member homes with their family present for the meeting. And rather than ignore what the kids were doing beyond the Tribe, the Tribe would go to support Tribe member's participation in their soccer and football games and school plays. (The kids loved this particular idea.)

Doesn't seem so radical does it?  These ideas have been floating around youth ministry for years. The difference was -we made a long term commitment to them, and we eliminated the 'school system' group-breaking approach that reconfigured our groups every few years. It changed the way we began to relate to each other and treat each other. It changed the way we planned, and when we met. It changed our approach to teaching and how we led. It made some things possible that in past youth groups I had only hoped for.

The group even went through a different kind of Confirmation experience together --building on the long-term relationships we had formed, the parental support, and the ability to teach/lead a group of friends rather than strangers or "church acquaintances." Both grades joined the church together through a special Confirmation process we developed to take advantage of who they were. See more Confirmation details below.

This article is courtesy of Neil MacQueen and Sunday Software, www.sundaysoftware.com and may be reprinted. 

I've been working in Christian education for 25+ years -guiding kids to know God, study the Bible, and feel good about being part of the church.  Unsatisfied with traditional approaches that get poor results, I have been a leader in redeveloping Sunday School through the Workshop Rotation Model (rotation.org) and designing exciting Bible software for kids (sundaysoftware.com). I am also a Presbyterian minister. Having served in two churches, I am currently serving as a Parish Associate in a Reformed Church.

For more articles from Neil about C.E. and church issues, go to www.sundaysoftware.com/articles

The Goals & Activities of Tribe13

In some ways, Tribe13 functioned like a typical youth group (even when the kids were only children). We met mostly on Wednesday nights, ate together, learned, worshipped, and played together.  We did service projects, and went on retreats. Not everything about traditional youth ministry was wrong! But there were several things that made the Tribe13 experiment DIFFERENT. And each of the following things made those traditional elements much more rewarding.

We changed the schedule to meet the changing needs of individuals within the group.

Example: When a couple of our kids had Wednesday night sport practice, we met on Sunday after church instead.  This caused a bit of a stir among the other Wednesday night groups.  In our last year together, the parents and kids all agreed we should move to Sunday nights, because as the kids got older, Wednesday Night was increasingly taken up by sports and homework in our community. Often such decisions are made by a distant committee, and then rarely revisited. Programs get created and it's "take it or leave it." But the Tribe's schedule was entirely flexible, and we always consulted kids and parents about the scheduling of  special events so that no one would be left out if we could avoid it. As someone famous once said, "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

We spent time with each other outside of church.

Members of the group attended each other's school plays and sporting events. The kids would go to movies together. Go for pizza. And when we met together, each talked about what they had been doing. We emphasized relationships, -being part of each other's lives outside the church.

We sought to know each other more than superficially.

Doing youth groups over the years, it always kind of bothered me that the kids didn't really know each other that well, even after a year or more of evening meetings. So in Tribe13 we really focused on that through a variety of means. One of things we most looked forward to were our monthly "HOME" events. Each month one of the members' families would invite the group into their home for meal and meeting. Parents and siblings were encouraged to take part. Home movies were encouraged to be shown much to the delight of everyone. Each parent worked with their tribe member to construct "a shrine" of their most prized possessions for the group to peruse. We visited their bedrooms and saw their posters and toys. I have often said that if I were forced to choose between meeting in church or meeting in a member home, I would choose home, no questions asked.

We sought to keep the same leaders.

There were three of us who made the commitment to stick with these kids for more than just a year or two like the typical volunteer. This was a family. This is how you get to know kids and build trust.

Unlike past youth groups, the three Tribe13 leaders were related to kids in the group. "Tim" and I had our own kids in the group, and "Dorothy" had a grandson in the group. Dorothy  had spent decades working with children in the church. They loved her. Dorothy also intuitively understood how Tribe13 was trying to be different than all the youth groups she had been involved with. She had seen her own children grow up in youth groups and leave the church. She didn't want it to be like that for her grandson.

When it was possible, we also brought in some college students whom the kids knew. And like every young adult I've ever worked with in youth ministry, you know that it probably meant more to them than it did to the kids, though it was certainly cool for the kids to see a college student taking their faith seriously ...and taking an interest in them.

Pulling real parents into the group is a great idea.

When the kids were young we regularly brought parents into the group. -which made it easier to keep parents part of things as the kids get older. This created a lot of support and "buy in" from the parents, which helped as the kids got older and schedules changed. It also made things feel more like a family.  When the youth group met in homes,  parents and siblings were encouraged to be front and center, and they loved that. And as our Tribe kids got older it made it easier to incorporate families into certain events.

Having parents help with the group also gave the kids an opportunity to relate to a parent-figures like their own parents, without it always being "their" parent. This is slightly better than having the typical "buddy couple" lead the group, --the enthusiastic young adult couple with a baby on the way who think they understand kids. Truth is, they actually have VERY LITTLE experience with pre-teens and teenagers. In my opinion, it's better for a Jr. High to have an adult to relate to who is similar to their own parent than quite different. It's sort of like the difference between having an Uncle to relate to.

Avoid Burning-Out the Leaders and the Kids

Some traditional youth groups and leaders are like whirling dervishes....they spin themselves faster and faster for the purposes of religious ecstasy or out of some sense of duty and enthusiasm. ....Then they crash, group and leaders. Many years ago I used to call my youth group kids on Sunday afternoon to remind them to attend that night. But after one phonecall I realized I was sending the wrong message to some of the kids who couldn't make "my" events. "Amy" was crying on the phone because she had a track meet and couldn't attend. Every time I'd see her in worship she'd apologize profusely, feeling like she had let me down.

As my own kids became teenagers, I began to realize just how BUSY their lives were. We needed a group that worked for them and within their lives, ..and not just for those who had the evening free. And we needed a group that worked for the leader's lives as well. Tribe13 stepped away from the whirling dervish model for youth ministry. For example, rather than running concurrent with the school year, September to May, like a traditional group, we adjusted our "program pace," type and timing of events throughout the year to accommodate seasonal schedules.

One of the benefits of the Tribe13 approach was in the way we defined our group. Kids tend to think they're "in" -if they attend, and "out" if they miss a couple of meetings. In Tribe13, because we tried to scheduled around the kids events as much as possible, we sent a new message. Think about it.... most churches and leaders see themselves as "in competition" for the kids attention. But in Tribe13, rather than complain about Spring Soccer, band practice, and school plays, we scheduled around them as much as possible. And we would GO TO the kids' events.... taking other group members with us.

I wish that I could have gone and supported "Amy" at her track meet, and brought youth group members with me. I should have celebrated Amy's passion for running, rather than giving off the subtle message that her running was competing with God.  So.....in Tribe13, we all went to Craig's football game rather than hold a meeting at the same time that he couldn't attend. (Man, we HE a happy camper; and so was the group.) That's one of the other things we began to realize over the years with Tribe13, --that there was value in just hanging out with each other. In the old days I would have felt like we didn't accomplish much if we didn't have some sort of "content" in our get-togethers. That's because I was short-term program oriented.

We also "eased-up" on our schedule.

We didn't have to meet every week, and we didn't have to meet all year round. Instead, we were in tune with the "seasons" of their schedules. In a traditional youth group, for example, a lot of your 'prime programming' falls in October and November, which is exactly the same time the kids are most involved in school plays and sports, -and have a lot of homework. Part of the key for us was communicating with the parents and kids, and being willing to adjust our schedule as things came up.

The other Wednesday Night powers-that-be at Hill church didn't like it when we didn't meet the same time they did. Their model got it's energy and sense of success seeing a lot of kids in one place. But large groups are a lousy way to build relationships and aren't that attractive to kids who spend all day at school with lots of people. We did often meet with the other groups for dinner, but we sat at our own table. In fact, they couldn't wait to sit down with each other. They didn't all go to the same schools, and they missed each other during the week. From time to time we did invite the other younger or older groups to play with us. I know this comes across as "exclusive" ...but our primary goal was to build the bonds between peers that would improve the sharing and learning, and their desire to come be together as a group, in worship, and at church events.  ...And the bonds grew strong.

No Artificial Sweeteners

It's easy to build attendance, just ask the kids to bring their friends. But "friends" are a two-edged sword in most youth groups. They tend not to come with the same "buy in" that the regular kids have. They tend to be a little less disciplined, less friendly to other kids, and less prepared to participate in discussion. They also draw the limited time and attention of the leaders. And then they're gone. Sorry if this offends your evangelistic senses, but this is the truth in most youth groups.  I've had some big youth groups over the years filled with friends. But I believe our first priority is to do quality youth ministry, not quantity.

I'd like to confess that I have limited time and resources and help. It was true when I was on staff, and it was certainly true as a volunteer leader.  Where then should we invest our limited resources?  I believe we should first nurture the regular attending kids of members. That is where the soil is most richly prepared. These are the families who came to us first, --who gave us the resources, their trust, and their children.  These are the ones who have the MUCH higher likelihood of becoming adult believers in our congregation. (I know how this sounds, but I'm not Superman.)  Feel free to nuance this any way you want, but you get my drift.

We had a "Friends Policy" that made perfect sense to us, the parents, and the kids, but it was frequently misunderstood by some people in our church looking for a reason to criticize our new fangled ideas. We said, "Bring any friend once or twice a year, after that, they can come only if they want to join the group and attend regularly. And certain events are for regular group members only." 

Our retreats for example were REALLY good because we only opened them to regular attenders, whether they be kids from the church or friends who had become regular. And our really FUN events, like the night we took over the 'bouncey room' fun center, were "members only."  We didn't want Tribe13 to be just another recreation option.  It's amazing how kids respond to having a standard set high. 

This friends "containment" policy also allowed us to minister to some of the more quiet regular kids, who often feel less comfortable in large groups with peers they don't know.

A Family that Prays together Stays Together

We worshipped with each other during group time. We did things to encourage participation in congregational worship. We signed the kids up to usher and be lay readers. We understood that the kids needed a relationship with the preacher, so every year we looked for ways to connect him with them. We made a point of having the kids help lead regular and special worship events. Nothing earth-shattering here... but what made it different than all the other groups I've ever worked with, was that we started when they were young, and kept them together doing it, and made it a priority instead of just a hope.

We committed to join the church together as a group.

Starting in the 5th/6th grade year, we started talking with them about "joining the church together" ...which meant "learning together." This made them feel special. It also gave the parents an important feeling about our group.  While we emphasized joining as a personal faith decision, we also used this "group join" approach as a lesson in how we come to faith and act in faith as a church, as a family. It worked because the Tribe WAS a family, and not just a typical "class" put together for the year. Read more about our Tribe13 Confirmation process below.

Better Pizza...

I've worked with a lot of youth groups over three decades, but never one more comfortable with itself, more caring towards each other, and more ready to "get down to business" than Tribe13. This was due in part to the kids themselves. We had some great ones. But it was no doubt also due to the fact that we had treated them like a tribe since they were kids. By the time they had become 7th and 8th graders, we could move into "discussion time" without a complaint and with few distractions. In past youth groups, the kids kept their guard up. In Tribe13, discussion time always went over well, which made the pizza taste all the better.

The Pastor

For better or worse, kids often equate their sense of well-being in worship with how they feel about the pastor. So in Tribe13, we made an extra effort to connect the Senior Pastor with the kids in a variety of comfortable settings. One of my favorite photos is from the night we all had dinner at the pastor's house. We told the kids to dress up, but didn't tell the pastor (that was a hoot). He cooked us an Indian meal and showed slides of his prior ministry in India. Happenings like this helped him get to know the kids personally. The parents, needless to say, were ecstatic.

"The Long Range Effect"

Staying together year in and year out was a big goal. We knew there would be long-term benefits to starting with them when they were young and sticking with them. What we didn't expect was that the KIDS themselves would appreciate this concept. We emphasized "family" and they embraced it. And even though my youngest daughter is no longer at that church or even in that state... she still keeps in touch through Facebook and text messaging with several of the kids from the Tribe. Indeed, we always told the kids and parents that "even after High School, we'd still be the Tribe."

All of these things began to change the QUALITY of our time together, or relationships, and our possibilities.

(I'm sure a better writer could describe these ideas more melodiously, but hopefully you get it!)

Results:
It worked to a point. For the kids in the program, their families and leaders it was an unqualified success!  But as mentioned, a number of families, including ours, and some staff people started to leave because of other problems. The children and youth ministry that remained shrunk. The staff person in charge of the ministry eventually left. This is the Achilles heel of all great ideas and programs...leadership changes and outside problems. So this article only amounts to a trail of breadcrumbs and cautions. The final destination will be yours.

Some Answers to Questions...

Why two grades? 

That's what worked for us. I suppose you could do three grades depending on your circumstances, but with three grades, the developmental and emotional age difference between youngest and oldest can be large, -especially at certain ages, such as at the 5th grade boundary. We wanted to build a long term "natural" peer group, ...a group of friends who's bonds would make the group something special, and help them go deeper into faith & living issues. To decide between two or three grades, you really need to look at the kids themselves. Two works great if you can pull it off. We had about 14 kids in that age bracket at our church. And 10-12 of them were regular participants in the Tribe.

Four grades is too much of a developmental spread to build a group in which each person views the other as a peer. And the life experiences of a 2nd grader compared to a 5th or 6th grader, or an incoming 9th grader and High School junior are too divergent. You usually end up with two groups within the one you were hoping for, and the older kids often frustrated with the immaturity of "the new kids." It's a programming hurdle youth leaders are all too familiar with, and just by the time you begin to work it out, the program year ends and you have to go through it again the next year.   To be sure, we did make sure our two grades stayed in touch with older and younger children at the church. But for quality bonding and fellowship programming, the closer in age, the better.

How does this affect the grades above and below the Tribe grades?

First...Creating FIXED NATURAL GROUPS that "age" together is NOTHING NEW. Bible classes and 'young adult' groups have done it for years. But it does create some implementation challenges with children and youth....

For example, what if a certain grade or two doesn't have enough kids to form a group? It happens in small churches. The solution is to either, a) start small and grow the group, or b) expense to three grade groups. Having served and worshipped in churches of many sizes and situations, I know that the answer dependant on many local variables. At the Hill church, the two grade groups we started with were an obvious choice. We only had 2 kids above in the next grade, and 1 below, and none of the 3 was a natural peer to the kids in the two grades we formed into our first Tribe.

And what do you do with the upcoming first graders if they can't be combined into the 2nd and 3rd grade "Tribe"? We had plans and ideas to deal with this. One plan for example, was to start a new group every two years. This would mean that new first graders might have to wait until they were second graders to form a new group with the upcoming first graders. It's variable for sure, --particularly in smaller churches, but the results are worth the change in thinking. It creates organic groups, instead of artificial ones.  To put it in another way, it unhooks us from the public school system of "grades" and school divisions. It allows the church to look at its individual kids and ask "what's possible" and "what's best."

I know that sounds radical... to open up fellowship programming only every two years to the younger grades, instead of each year to new upcoming children. But where is it written that we HAVE to add a grade each year? And who's to say you don't do some special family ministry with those 1st graders during their "waiting year"?  Or...why not work with them when they are 4 & 5 year olds together?  One point of the Tribe13 Experiment was to UNSHACKLE ourselves from our conventional thinking about 'grade groups'. You can't start young enough to form lasting peer-bonds. And again... it's those peer bonds that are the foundation to all our programming goals. 

How does the Tribe concept affect Youth Groups?

Fact: the Tribe concept was created SPECIFICALLY to create a future Youth Group We realized that to build a different kind of youth ministry and group experience, we needed to start with the kids were much younger. So much of youth group programming is "community building"  --what would happen if they already WERE a community when they became youth?  It's every youth minister's dream not to have to start from scratch, and to be able to go further with kids because they were ready.

Creating fixed groups of children that "age together" also eventually create a challenge for the existing High School group -if it doesn't move to the "fixed group" model.  High School groups are used to getting a new grade of kids each year to replace those they've lost to to graduation. But it's a problem you have for only a few years, and there are several creative solutions to it.

For example, if you switch to a Tribe concept, the High School group no longer gets a 'new grade' added to it each year. So... that group will eventually need to change how it functions and relates to each other as it loses kids to graduation. It can become its own tribe, and as its kids move towards graduation, they can work to stay in touch with Tribe members who have graduated, or invite friends to maintain a functional number (in a small church this is important). It's a scary idea for leaders who didn't sign-on to lead a shrinking group. But smaller is not bad, if you adjust to it and don't keep programming like you still have 15 kids, rather than 8.  The problem is when leaders don't know what else to do, ...when they only know one way of running a youth group. (Frankly, many youth groups need to adjust ANYWAY as their kids "age." In most churches, attendance drops as the High Schoolers start to drive and get closer to graduation, and yet, every year the group's program stays the same, and yet we blame the kids for not coming as much?  Better to group kids in natural age groups so that you can minister to their changing needs/age. One size does not fit all.

And let's be honest: traditional youth group thinking has produced poor long-term results for the Church. Most kids coming up through traditional youth programming do not return to the Church as adults. It's a hard truth many youth leaders don't want to hear. Tribe13 is an overhaul to conventional thinking.

"What happens when the Tribe gets to the end of High School and one grade graduates?"  We had plans for that too. We were going to redefine how we met as a group that year and how we stayed in touch. Having worked with High School Seniors and College students for many years, it's not as hard as it sounds. And indeed, most youth group already struggle with how to keep Seniors and grads connected. The Tribe13 Experiment would make it EASIER because the kids themselves would be so bonded by their years together that they would WANT to stay in touch. 

Many of us knew that the NEED for change outweighed the challenges change would create.
Many of us knew that we could adapt to unforeseen consequences. We weren't scared about that.
But not everyone is comfortable with beginning a journey without a complete set of maps.

Below I describe one of the big motivating factors for change: my daughter was in the group, and I wanted her to have a different experience of youth groups and the church than all the groups and kids I had worked with before. More about that "promise" in a moment.

Tribe13 Experiment reminded me a lot of my work with creating the Workshop Rotation Model for Sunday School. (rotation.org)

  • The essential ideas were correct.
  • We had a plan, not a prescription. We knew we'd be creating as we created.
  • The long term results we were seeking were worth the short-term concerns.
  • Change and Challenge opens your mind and frees you see new possibilities and solutions.
  • The old ways, while comfortable and predictable, weren't producing the results we dreamed of.

 

The Tribe13 Name

"Tribe13" has several meanings. First, "tribe" sounded fun. Early in my ministry I used to dismiss the importance of fun youth group names, ...and I was a dope. Names give you identify.

We also chose "tribe" because that was what we had become and wanted to become, --a natural affinity group, --an extended family.

The name also harkened back to the twelve tribes of Israel, which gave it a little Bible cachet.  We also thought it was kind of cool to be "the 13th Tribe of Israel." And at the time, putting "numbers" in your youth group name was popular.  Though '13' was considered "unlucky" by some, our group turned it into something of a positive joke. When something odd would happen, or didn't work right, or somebody tripped, or knocked something over, somebody would quip, "well, we are the 13th tribe of Israel, afterall." We would also sometimes joke that we were the "Lost Tribe". 

Tribe13 was a promise to my daughter

I had a very personal motive in starting Tribe13. When my family and I started attending the Hill Church, my two oldest daughters didn't like their fellowship groups. As a former youth pastor, it was hard listening to my daughters complain about their fellowship group. My oldest daughter stopped going on Wednesday nights, and I didn't blame her. (When we started Tribe13, I invited her to be a "big sister" to the kids, and she gladly accepted. This was going to be another feature of the Tribe, bringing in brothers and sisters of college age to help).  My middle daughter stuck with having a love-hate relationship with her youth group until she graduated. Over the years it broke my heart to hear her complain about the activities and lack of attendance. Both my girls also had a terrible Confirmation experience at Hill Church. It's one thing for me to realize it wasn't good, but my daughters also knew at the time that it wasn't good, and I found myself apologizing for the church.

Where was "dad, the former youth pastor" while his older daughters struggled in youth fellowship?  I was working with my youngest daughter's fellowship group on Wednesday night. I would have given anything to also help with my older daughters' youth groups, but they were held the same night as the younger group.

I couldn't do anything about the youth group, but I WAS working with my youngest daughter's grade school group, and made a promise to myself that I would STICK with her group as long as she would let me TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO THESE KIDS TOO.  Part of my goal in creating Tribe13 was DEMONSTRATE a new standard for youth group and Confirmation programming.

After 3 years of working with my youngest daughter's age group (before we formed them into the Tribe) it was OBVIOUS that we had two grades of kids who were strong attenders, had strong church-going families, and the kids really liked being together. The thought of breaking them up in a year or two because the public schools were going to put them in different schools --didn't seem right. (In our community the 6th graders went to their own "6th Grade School", then they were split into 3 Middle Schoolers, then 2 High Schools.) The kids did not want to be broken up/recombined every two years.  That's how I came to propose Tribe13 over the summer of 2001 when my youngest was in 4th grade. I said, "Forget about how the public schools do things, let's keep them together." --and we got the green light. The kids were ecstatic, their parents were enthusiastic, and my daughter gave me a huge hug. 

It wasn't all roses...

When I first proposed the idea of Tribe13, some in the congregation weren't as enthusiastic as the kids and the parents were. They worried about Tribe13 becoming "too exclusive." The proposal had us breaking out of the Wednesday night model on occasion, and they were worried it might be viewed as the Tribe getting "special treatment." They also worried what it would mean for the kids in grades below and above our two Tribe13 grades. But fortunately, Hill was a small church, and there weren't any kids in the grade just below, and only two in the grade above (and they weren't part of the Tribe's natural peer group).

By forming this 'break-out' group, with it's own goals and sense of autonomy, we were also going up against the traditional lines of authority in the church. Fortunately for us, this wasn't much of a problem, but occasionally we'd hear a complaint from someone in charge.  Chairpersons, committees, pastors, DCEs... the system is set up to provide support, accountability, and control. But it can also be about "turf" in some churches. Fortunately, we didn't have to deal with that too much at the Hill Church.

I'm sure that one of the reasons Tribe13 was approved was because of me. It's pretty hard to say "no" to a leader who is willing to lead, -who has the training, -has a track record of success in other churches, -has the support of the parents and kids, -and has a kid in the group. It's hard to say no to somebody basically volunteering to lead these kids for the next umpteen years AND help design a more fulfilling Confirmation experience along the way. But what they probably didn't know was that my family might have left the church had they not approved the idea. They had already delivered a sub-par youth ministry to my two older daughters, and I wasn't going to let it happen to my youngest. Fortunately, I didn't have to go there. Tribe13 was approved with relatively little discussion.

After we formed the group, it seems like every year afterwards someone would complain about "what was going to happen when the Tribe13 grades were in High School... how was that going to affect the existing High School youth group!"  Frankly, the way the Senior youth group was shrinking it wasn't going to be that big a deal. But we had a couple of years to worry about it, and I told them "we'll figure it out."  Some people are comfortable exploring and experimenting. Others let their fears keep them where they are, even if they don't want to really be there.

A year into the experiment I knew we were on the right track. Tribe13 turned into something special. They were kids like every other church I have ever been in, but they were different because they were buying in to our new group concept, and we were treating them different. The group averaged between 10 and 14 kids every time we got together, and they became fast friends and active members in the congregation.

Note: I don't think the Hill Church is exceptional in some of its reservations and problems that I encountered there. I am grateful that they allowed us to experiment, and hopeful that they learned a few things from our time together. One person who read this article said it sounded like I still had some issues with that congregation, and I'm not gonna lie, I do. If you've ever poured your soul into a group, only to have to later walk away due to circumstances beyond your control, you know how I feel. It's hard enough for healthy congregations these days, and doubly hard for those with problems. Word to the wise.

Who the heck is Neil MacQueen?  ...and how do I know what I'm talking about?

Some people naturally want to know my authority for suggesting change. More important, however, are the experiences that SUGGEST change!

I started teaching Sunday School and leading youth and children's ministry groups back in 1977. I've been a youth leader, youth director, a youth pastor intern, Youth Pastor, and Associate Minister in charge of youth groups and Sunday School. I'll put my youth ministry credentials and experiences up against anybody's.  And indeed, it was those experiences which lead me to REWORK the old model in favor of trying something like Tribe13. 

When we started Tribe13 in 2001, I was a minister working full-time with my own Christian software publishing company and looking forward to being "just" a volunteer at the Hill Church. They recruited me to be a Wednesday night fellowship leader and a Sunday School teacher. The church knew I was a Presbyterian minister, and one of the founders of the Workshop Rotation Model, -a different way to do Sunday School, -which that church planned to implement. They also knew I had a company which develops Christian education software, and eventually we created a small computer lab there too. All my life I've been trying to improve the experience of kids in the church. I've had some success and some failures yelling into that wind. I count Tribe13 as a great success. -which ended in an unexpected and unavoidable way.
 

Unpopular Opinion:

Children's ministry is a great thing, but it tends to be run like a "big group Sunday School." --Structured, --a lot of rules, --run by "moms" (sorry moms), with an emphasis on activities and schedules over individual relationships. Many kids just don't thrive in such an environment. And as a leader, you become more like a ringmaster than mentor.  Before we came up with the Tribe13 concept, we had already begun to subtly change our children's group to have a little more "youth group" flavor to it.  

IMHO: One of the problems with children's groups is they tend to be run a little too tight, a little too much like traditional Sunday School, when what the kids need is more of a small group -youth-group feel. And indeed, many churches recruit two different types of leaders: someone to run the children's program, and someone to run the youth program. I remember one particular episode years ago that is a great example of "the difference." After teaching a lesson, I was called back into the room to head-off a volunteer who was yelling at the kids for not lining up at the door. I am comfortable being a  "a big kid" at times, but not all parents are built that way. I have no problems sticking a carrot in my nose at dinner or "Going Hulkster" during beachball volleyball, because I know that being my fun authentic self puts the kids at ease, makes me a more approachable faith role model and teacher.

In seminars across North America, I have told told youth pastors that they needed to realize that their youth group already exists down in the children's elementary grades. And that's where they should start working with them before it's too late. A few years ago some statistics came out from Barna Research backing up this observation: the teenage years are too late to begin doing the heavy lifting of relational ministry and faith formation. Tribe13 took this research to heart.

Most honest youth ministers will admit that they spend a lot of their programming effort trying to re-energize kids to "come back" to the church and go deeper. So over the years, I simply had one vision: "What if I didn't have to spend all that effort convincing them to come back?"  What if my return rate from 5th to 10th grade was 70% or 80% instead of 30% or 40%? 

But it's more than just numbers... What if we raised up an entirely different kind of youth group -by laying the groundwork when they were young?

Imagine how we could transform not only the program and things like Confirmation, but the kids themselves!  Tribe13 was born out of all those frustrations and visions.

 

Even some of the pillars of the youth ministry community have questioned the way we've been doing things....

The Case for Something Different

I have led youth groups where we didn't have enough chairs and couches for all the kids piling into the room.  I've taken vanloads and busloads of kids on mission trips and retreats. I've shepherded 11 different Confirmation classes through their course. But in my gut, I knew that this type of traditional "apparently successful" youth ministry wasn't producing the results we had hoped for: youth going deeper with each other and with their faith and becoming worshipping adults.

But what I was initially surprised to learn was that I was not alone in that gut feeling.

I remember my jaw hitting the floor the day I read Mike Yaconelli's bombshell article in YouthWorker Journal about ten years ago, in which he laid waste to the past 30 years of youth ministry as we knew it.

His conclusion: "It was fun, we filled the room, ...but it didn't work."

For those of you who don't know who I'm talking about, Mike Yaconelli was the GODFATHER of modern youth ministry. He and Wayne Rice (another of the YS Godfathers) published the IDEAS books, among many others, a staple of every church's youth ministry in the 70's and 80's. His hippy-dippy traveling "Youth Specialties" seminars were attended by everybody involved in youth ministry back then. Then he blew it all up. After decades of doing really creative youth ministry, and becoming the guru, he announced "the Emperor has no clothes." 

Mike wanted to know "where were all those kids now?"  Mike had led successful groups, but most of his enthusiastic teens went off to college and didn't come back to the church. He realized too late that they had created a church within the church for these kids, and that once they were too old for youth group, they didn't feel comfortable in the traditional boring congregation, and so they didn't come back to it.

He also questioned the entire hippy-dippy, recreational style "church-lite" youth group ministry that he had helped create and resource.

Sadly, Yaconelli died in a car accident the year after he delivered his bombshell. Had he lived, I suspect youth ministry would have been transformed. He was that much of a respected leader. But there are voices out here. Mine, maybe yours, and people like Mark DeVries....

A few years ago Mark DeVries published "Family Based Youth Ministry" (InterVarsity Press) ...which was another shot across the bow of traditional youth ministry -this time coming from a Presbyterian minister. I remember reading his book and thinking, "this guy is reading my mind." And many of his inclinations and suggestions for change sounded familiar. It's a book everyone in youth ministry should read. Tribe13 took his book to heart, and added a strong does of "family" to our programming.


"If you don't 'get it,' don't bother doing it."

I heard this somewhere and started quoting it to new youth group leaders and youth pastors. Newbie youth pastors often eschew advice from an 'old' codger like me because they still believe they can lead youth to Christ by the force of their own dynamic words, --by their engaging personality, -by their own amazing personal testimonial, -by their love for kids, and with their great programming ideas. I know this is true because it used to describe me as well.

Well youth-fans, I'm here to tell you it doesn't work like that most of the time. The race is not to the swift or silver-tongued youth leader once a week on Sunday. It's to the caring, enduring, genuine, playful, and faithful parent. The kids' parents and you. -Over time. -Over the years.  That's part of the reason why we designed Tribe13 as a family group with the long term commitment of the leaders. And it's why we started this type of programming with them when they were young, instead of waiting until the 7th grade to forge relationships between then and with their leaders.

And that's why in Tribe13 we worked extra hard at incorporating parents and group meetings in homes (described above). I'm sure you have a great testimonial to give, so give it. But ideally, you want to create the opportunity for their mom or dad, or older brother or sister to represent Christ to them, because frankly, you just aren't there enough hours in the week. And as Youth Specialties guru Mike Yaconelli began to realize before his life was cut short, --you want to connect kids to the sanctuary, and not just your guitar-singing songfest, creative prop-filled Bible talk, and crazy games. Youth and youth groups don't last forever. You need to prepare them for an adult faith and help them understand what church is all about.   I could go on, but like the man said, if you don't get it by now, don't bother doing it.

Lamentations

We weren't able to see the experiment past 2007. It went really well for six years, but then it ended due to circumstances in that church that had nothing to do with Tribe13 itself.  The Hill Church had some serious problems which we could no longer overlook. There's only so much you can take before the frustration starts to undermine your desire to keep going there. We reached that point in mid-2007 even as we were planning a truly spectacular post-Confirmation year with Tribe13.

A series of things happened which led my family and others to walk away. I've written about this experience, -what happened, and what I learned from it, over at http://sundayresources.net/neil/2008/05/20/why-we-left-our-last-church/  Sadly, during the first draft of this article, I received a letter from two more Hill Church families that were leaving for many of the same reasons we did.

As mentioned, not everyone at Hill Church liked our Tribe13 concept. From the outside it looked like we were trying to build an "exclusive" group. And because it didn't fit the traditional Wed or Sunday Nite model, some leaders and members viewed it with suspicion. Churches like their youth groups to be "seen." And here we were opting out of Wed Nite dinners and going to group members' homes instead.  And some people didn't like the fact that the existence of Tribe13 was "a critique" of previous attempts at children and youth programming.

Indeed, as Tribe13 flourished, the other groups started to shrink for reasons unrelated to the Tribe, -but it made some grumble. And as their groups shrunk, there was a subtle pressure to "combine into the Tribe at some point in the future" the few kids from the grades surrounding the Tribe's two grades.  In some circumstances, that would be fine. But what bothered me about that was that they weren't willing to address the reasons for the shrinkage or try new things to grow. They were just following the traditional path and getting the traditional diminishing returns. Rather than re-imagine how they could minister to their shrinking number of High Schoolers, they just assumed that they would eventually meld the older kids in with the Tribe as the Tribe got to 8th and 9th grade.

The final straw actually involved something related to Tribe13. We wanted to take the group on a summer trip to the YCamp of the Rockies (a very youth group friendly and spiritual place) --and needed permission to send a $700 refundable deposit to hold our reservation. It was unanimously approved by the Session of the Hill Church, but the next day the pastor accused us of "tieing the financial hands of the congregation" --which at that time  had a $200,000 budget. Yeah, it was that bizarre.  This same pastor had just pushed through a building campaign, threatening to leave if it wasn't approved.

After we left, another Tribe family left, the remaining Tribe leadership team faded, and certain people couldn't wait to add the Tribe13 kids into the remnants of the older youth group to bolster its number. Two years later, some of the Tribe kids are the core of that youth group, but they tell my daughter via text and Facebook that it's not good, and they miss the Tribe. We didn't reach our goal of graduating the group and following them through college, but we did give them a good foundation. And maybe some of the ideas and emphasis of the Tribe concept have rubbed off on the people there.

Not every good story has a perfect ending. But this story isn't about me, or that church.... it's about YOUR church.
It's about being HONEST about what doesn't work, and BOLD to make changes.
I hope some of my ideas and experiences help your own, and get you and your kids to where you need to go.


Now let me tell you about our Tribe13 CONFIRMATION Experience!

Of all the things the Tribe did, --and of all the youth ministry I've ever done, I'm most proud of this.

As a pastor, I had led 11 traditional classes to their Confirmation Day. And every year, I would lament the fact that HALF my class was composed of kids who rarely darkened the church door. I actually had one youth tell me that his father said, "Get confirmed and I'll never ask you to go to another thing at church." And you know what? He never did come to another thing.

Now remember, our youth group numbers were no lie. I related well to kids and was a pretty creative teacher too. And I know our creative-traditional classes did impact some kids lives. But after 11 years of watching many of the confirmands fall off the cliff afterwards, and after watching my OWN two daughters have a horrible Confirmation experience at the hands of the Hill Church, I swore it would never happen to my youngest daughter. So when we started Tribe13, I told the pastor, "when it comes time to confirm them, I promise to lead that effort." And he was obviously happy to have that off his plate.

My Tribe13 "Confirmation concept" is disarmingly simple:

Turn their Confirmation into a celebration of what they had already achieved, -of what they had already become, --rather than treating it like a hoop to jump through and a "crash course in Christianity."  Instead, we taught the "content of Confirmation" to them in small doses in the years leading up to their Confirmation. That freed us up to handle the Confirmation year a little bit differently and it changed the 'quality' of the kids' experience tremendously.

In fact, I used to tell the Tribe kids that when it came time for their confirmation it would be a party, not a bunch of classes to pass.

Which isn't to say we didn't teach them "content." What we did was make the traditional topics of confirmation part of their Tribe13 experience in the years LEADING UP TO their confirmation year. For example, we taught a creative unit on the Apostles Creed (basic systematic theology!) when the Tribe kids were in the 5th and 6th grade. We made sure the parents understood that this unit was part of our long-range Confirmation process, and attendance was especially good for those meetings.

And because the Tribe kids and leaders knew each other so well and were great together, the content and discussion went a lot more smoothly and was more well-received than any other Confirmation group I had ever led.

We also told the kids years in advance that they would have to be "invited" by the church to be confirmed, or... make their own request.  When their Confirmation Year approached, I gave each of them a personal handwritten letter of invitation, talking about what I saw in their character and faith. To most, I said, "you are already a member of this church in the eyes of God...let's go a little deeper and make this a party."   In other Confirmation classes in previous churches, the kids approached it with a mixture of dread and disinterest.

Oh, we did cover some dry subjects. At the Fall retreat the year before they were confirmed, we did a fun romp through church history and what it meant to be a Presbyterian. It was such a better setting than sitting in a classroom, and because we enjoyed being together so much and the kids were comfortable with each other, the discussion flowed.

By the time they got to their "Confirmation Year" they had already learned most of the traditional content via the Tribe's youth group learning environment, and not a stuffy class on Saturday morning in the pastor's office. We told them they had to "attend a minimum of 10 worship services" in their Confirmation year, and do a service project. Thing is, all of them were already regularly attending, regularly worshipping, and regularly helping with service projects.

In traditional Confirmation classes, the kids are often asked to help lead a worship service. We didn't have to do that with Tribe13 because they had already been doing that since they were in the 5th grade.

In traditional Confirmation classes there's a unit about the Sacraments. But we didn't have to teach them about Passover-Communion because they knew all about it through our bi-annual in-home seder meals which they loved.

In a traditional class, the kids read a book and discuss it. In keeping with the Tribe's "home" and "parent-important" focus, we had them read a booklet with a parent, or with an older brother and sister. They read it aloud to each other and the chapters had questions to answer (designed to get them sharing, especially asking the parent or sibling to share their experiences and questions). When they were done, they both signed the back page and turned it in. My daughter read the booklet with her older sister. Another confirmand read it with her grandmother. Yet another confirmand asked a Sunday teacher to read it with them.

Traditionally, we invited the church elders to come talk to the confirmands, but we gave it a huge twist. Instead of the elders "examining" the kids, we had the kids "examine" the elders. They asked questions like, "what it was like when you were confirmed," and "when did you first feel like God was real in your life." Of course, the kids had to answer the question too, and the elders were really impressed. Our biggest problem with the interviews was having enough time. The kids said it was a neat experience.

We also severely tweaked the Confirmation Day Worship Service...

On Confirmation Day, we had the kids come forward to make their vows individually, ...but we asked them to invite family members and significant others to join them up front.  These significant others came forward and participated in the liturgy and vows. They laid their hands on them in a prayer --making a powerful visual statement.  Afterwards in the Fellowship Hall, the Tribe was typically standing together, and introducing each other to their grandparents and relatives who had come for the big day. I've stood in many a post- Confirmation fellowship halls having cake and greeting family and members. But that Sunday was extra special. The members sensed it and responded. It was a party indeed.

[What about the kids who were of similar age to the Tribe and wanted to join? That wasn't a problem for us. We had two church kids in that age group who didn't attend the Tribe due to outside commitments. So we programmed them their own set of classes with a teacher on Sunday morning, and had them attend the Tribe's Confirmation events when possible.  One-size does not fit all. There's a time and place for individual teens to spend time with a teacher and make their confirmation in a different way.]

In all my years of leading confirmation classes, I've never had a better experience than this one. And I've never had more parents and members come up to me with such joy in their eyes (and a few tears) thanking me for helping guide their kids to this day. And it all began years before when we turned them into "the Tribe."
 

You've reached the end of this article.

I hope our experiment and story will help you own.

<>< Neil MacQueen

Copyright 2009, Neil MacQueen, www.sundaysoftware.com
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